After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, what comparisons can you make between the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games?
After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, both the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem is very similar. Both countries are required to do EXACTLY as told. No one tries to rebel because not only could they face consequences, their family and other relatives could be harmed. They must stay in their designated area or district, and stay where the Capitol places them. If either people say anything bad against the government, they could die. During the Hunger Games, at one of the dinners, there is a red haired girl that is an avox, which is someone who rebelled and gets their tongue cut off, which shows the severity of the Capitol’s control. During the documentary Inside North Korea, one of the camera care takers lay on the ground in front of the statue of the great leader to get a better shot of him, and one of the guards making sure none of the people from America do anything tells the camera man to get off the ground, that he is showing great disrespect, which also shows the severity of the leader's control over the country.
Matthew, you are right on in your comparison. Thinking about all of the constraints placed on the peoples of both governments, what do you think is the catalyst that inspires, challenges someone to rebel?
I agree Kayla, but they don't publically rebel because if they did they would be killed or hurt in some way, as there family would.
Cressida, I think once a person gets to the point that the government is so controlling, something in their mind triggers and puts their family first and makes them want to rebel to make it a better place for them and their family.
After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, there are very many comparisons I can make between North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games. One of the comparisons I can make is the fact that they're not allowed to speak badly about their leaders. In the Hunger Games, if you speak badly about the Capitol, it’s considered rebellion and they cut your tongue because you are a traitor. In the documentary Inside North Korea, you are not allowed to speak against the leader, Kim Jong Il. Another comparison I can make is their limitation on education. In the Hunger Games, they mostly learn about what their district produces. In the documentary Inside North Korea, the only books they are allowed to read are books by Kim Jong Il’s father. Their governments are very similar because they control every move you make. You can't rebel, you can't leave, and you can't even say what you want. Neither of the governments allows you to have any say in anything whatsoever. They are both very controlling and unfair.
Hannah, good observations. I especially like the comparison you made about education. What impact do you think this kind of education has on the people? Does that make you think about the education we have in America?
They are both very controlling and ill mannered governemnts. I believe each government takes care of themselves before they do the people. In the Hunger Games the people of Panem are starving while the people at the Capitol are eating five course meals three times a day. In North Korea the leader bought up to 1000 limo's while most people were blind in his country. Also you must keep your opinions to yourself. You would'nt want to be caught in either area speaking badly of the leading people. In both societies, you do not have the right to speak out against the government unless the want to punished as badly as execution.
The comparisons I have seen between the Capitol and North Korea are they both border their area and citizens in electric bobbed wire fence. They also controll everything and everyone, so nobody has any kind ok self expression, except the rulers.
After watching the documentary inside North Korea and reading Hunger Games I can infer that they are alike because both Panem and North Korea are under government control. Kim Jong Il rules North Korea and won’t let his people have any freedom whatsoever. In Panem, the Capitol rules all 12 districts and won’t let them have any freedom either. Koreans don’t rebel because there are electric fences and guards all around the border, but in Panem, Katniss and Gale rebel by hunting for food so they don’t starve.
I think the reason why Katniss and Gale rebel is to get the things they need like food for their families . People in North Korea rebel beause they want freedom , since communication is rare . On the other hand , people rebel to get what they want .
After watching the documentary inside North Korea the comparisons tht i can make between North Korea and panem are, tht the capitol will not tell the truth on how people die, and when something goes good because of another district, they say tht the capitol did this and the capitol did tht they need to tell the truth because when someone figures out tht the capitol has been lying, every district will start an uprising and they will die for their reactions and then poof no panem anymore because the capitol obliterated all of the districts, tht also means no more hunger games.
What comparisons I can make between North Korea and the nation of Panem or the hunger games is that both leaders of both nations support themselves more than their environment or citizens. Also, both nations limit the food which causes a lot of starvation and don’t allow citizens to cross the gate to leave the nation.
After watching this documentary I realized that both are North Korea And Pamen are very controlling over their people. But in North Korea they have “brain washed” their citizens to worship and praise Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Song, never to doubt them give them praise for everything they are given for example the camera man laid on the ground to take a picture of the statue of Kim Il Song was a sign of great disrespect. In Panem (Hunger Games.)They are rebellious against the capitol for example Katniss she crosses the fence to hunt and trades the animals she hunts and kills. But both are very similar and still unalike. But the North Korean government seems more successful in controlling their people because they don’t have people rebelling against them. But as for Pamen government they have several people rebelling against them.
I believe the people of Koreans are less likely to rebel because they have been taught from birth to praise and worship the leader, no matter who it is. The people of Panem were not taught to worship the government and it is an instinct thing to do.
The number of similarities between North Korea and Panem is frightening. They both punish those who speak out, like by being put in Camp Number 22, or being turned into an avox. Both countries have many starving and malnourished citizens, such as the “stunted generation” and the always hungry District 12. Another similarity between the two power hungry countries can be the fence that surrounds the countries, the DMZ in North Korea and the “electric” fence around Panem. No matter how many similarities there may be between the countries, there are still differences. The North Korean government uses hero worship to control the citizens. Panem uses fear. But they both use some sort of method to control their citizens, methods that work.
I agree, Samantha, but I would also assert that both the North Korean government and Capitol of Panem use fear to control their people in order to keep themselves in power. Think about some of the fear tactics the North Korean government used in order to prevent their citizens from escaping and seeking refuge in China and South Korea. For instance, if a citizen escaped to China, the North Korean government would send his/her remaining family members to a concentration camp for the rest of their lives even if the family had no knowledge of the plans for escape.
I agree with you that there is certainly more of a "hero-worship" aspect to the North Korean government unlike the Capitol of Panem. President Snow is kind of an enigma in the Hunger Games.
After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, I can make a lot of similarities between the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games. For example, the Capitol and King Jong were rich, while the people were poor. The Capitol has all of the money it needs and is selfish with it. King Jong had all of the money he needed and wouldn’t share with any of his poor people. Also, if you rebelled in any way, consequences were took place. In the Capitol, if you rebelled you either had to work for the capitol, or you were killed. In North Korea, you were also killed or put in concentration camp. Also, the Capitol and the North Korean government both are controlling. The citizens were given very little rights and didn’t their opinion didn’t matter. For example, the citizens in district 12 receive a little amount of food due to its harsh rules.
Shyanne, you make a good point about how both governments do not distribute the wealth among their country men, but instead use it to keep their government leaders and military strong. As you have also noted, Panem and the North Korean government use fear as the ultimate weapon to keep their people oppressed and prevent rebellion, thereby ensuring those in power stay in power. In other words, Kim Jong Il and President Snow were willing to sacrifice their own people for their own self-preservation.
You have drawn some good comparisons, Shyanne. Can you think of specific examples from the Hunger Games that demonstrate how the Capitol was able to control the districts of Panem through fear?
Well both governments are very controlled and limited to what they do; for example North Korea has a fence around it just like Panem does in The Hunger Games. I’m pretty sure that both of the countries have very little food supply and barely enough to keep everyone alive. Both countries also have punishment as cruel as death for the smallest of crimes. Going outside the fence is a crime but you will get punished severely if you get caught.
The comparisons you can make between the North Korean government and the capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games is that in North Korea the leader bans the cell phone use to limit the communication between other countries, likewise the capitol doesn’t let anyone outside the district by having the electric fence surrounding the land to limit the communication between the other districts. Also in North Korea the leader punishes the rebellions by killing, or concentration camps. Panem on the other hand would kill, or cut their tongues out, and make them an avox that serves the capitol, if they rebel.
Yes, yes, yes, Heather! Preventing the people from being able to communicate with one another is one of the primary methods the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem used to oppress their people and prevent them from rebelling. Without communication, the districts in Panem would not be able organize and assemble with one another to fight against the Capitol.
As a result of the war, the population in each district decreased dramatically. In order to fight against the strong, well-populated Capitol, the districts would have to unite and share one another's resources. In other words, the districts need strength in numbers if they want to overthrow the Capitol.
As you know, there are two other books in the series. What do you think is going to happen next? Will the Capitol remain in control? Will the districts ever rebel against the Capitol? Will there be more Hunger Games?
the comparison you can make between the north korean goverment and the capitol of panem in the hunger games is, both of them are very controlling over the people and they only give them a little bit of area to live. they also control their food supply, by limiting how much they eat and what they eat. both dont give a good education to the kids and only teach them a very little bit. they also take away any type of communication like cell phones.they both will punish any type of rebel too!
Some similarities between the capitol and the north korean government are that bothof them poorly support their citizens. They both also do not take communication between districts/sides lightly.
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ReplyDeleteAfter watching the documentary Inside North Korea, both the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem is very similar. Both countries are required to do EXACTLY as told. No one tries to rebel because not only could they face consequences, their family and other relatives could be harmed. They must stay in their designated area or district, and stay where the Capitol places them. If either people say anything bad against the government, they could die. During the Hunger Games, at one of the dinners, there is a red haired girl that is an avox, which is someone who rebelled and gets their tongue cut off, which shows the severity of the Capitol’s control. During the documentary Inside North Korea, one of the camera care takers lay on the ground in front of the statue of the great leader to get a better shot of him, and one of the guards making sure none of the people from America do anything tells the camera man to get off the ground, that he is showing great disrespect, which also shows the severity of the leader's control over the country.
ReplyDeleteBut Katniss and Gale rebel against the Capitol in Panem.
DeleteMatthew, you are right on in your comparison. Thinking about all of the constraints placed on the peoples of both governments, what do you think is the catalyst that inspires, challenges someone to rebel?
DeleteI agree Kayla, but they don't publically rebel because if they did they would be killed or hurt in some way, as there family would.
DeleteCressida, I think once a person gets to the point that the government is so controlling, something in their mind triggers and puts their family first and makes them want to rebel to make it a better place for them and their family.
After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, there are very many comparisons I can make between North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games. One of the comparisons I can make is the fact that they're not allowed to speak badly about their leaders. In the Hunger Games, if you speak badly about the Capitol, it’s considered rebellion and they cut your tongue because you are a traitor. In the documentary Inside North Korea, you are not allowed to speak against the leader, Kim Jong Il. Another comparison I can make is their limitation on education. In the Hunger Games, they mostly learn about what their district produces. In the documentary Inside North Korea, the only books they are allowed to read are books by Kim Jong Il’s father. Their governments are very similar because they control every move you make. You can't rebel, you can't leave, and you can't even say what you want. Neither of the governments allows you to have any say in anything whatsoever. They are both very controlling and unfair.
ReplyDeleteHannah, good observations. I especially like the comparison you made about education. What impact do you think this kind of education has on the people? Does that make you think about the education we have in America?
DeleteThey are both very controlling and ill mannered governemnts. I believe each government takes care of themselves before they do the people. In the Hunger Games the people of Panem are starving while the people at the Capitol are eating five course meals three times a day. In North Korea the leader bought up to 1000 limo's while most people were blind in his country. Also you must keep your opinions to yourself. You would'nt want to be caught in either area speaking badly of the leading people. In both societies, you do not have the right to speak out against the government unless the want to punished as badly as execution.
ReplyDeleteCan you think of a time in the Hunger Games where of the characters had to be careful about what they said?
DeleteThe comparisons I have seen between the Capitol and North Korea are they both border their area and citizens in electric bobbed wire fence. They also controll everything and everyone, so nobody has any kind ok self expression, except the rulers.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think it would be like to live in a country where self expression was controlled?
DeleteAfter watching the documentary inside North Korea and reading Hunger Games I can infer that they are alike because both Panem and North Korea are under government control. Kim Jong Il rules North Korea and won’t let his people have any freedom whatsoever. In Panem, the Capitol rules all 12 districts and won’t let them have any freedom either. Koreans don’t rebel because there are electric fences and guards all around the border, but in Panem, Katniss and Gale rebel by hunting for food so they don’t starve.
ReplyDeleteKayla, you are correct, but can you address why you think that some people do rebel?
DeleteI think the reason why Katniss and Gale rebel is to get the things they need like food for their families . People in North Korea rebel beause they want freedom , since communication is rare . On the other hand , people rebel to get what they want .
DeleteAfter watching the documentary inside North Korea the comparisons tht i can make between North Korea and panem are, tht the capitol will not tell the truth on how people die, and when something goes good because of another district, they say tht the capitol did this and the capitol did tht they need to tell the truth because when someone figures out tht the capitol has been lying, every district will start an uprising and they will die for their reactions and then poof no panem anymore because the capitol obliterated all of the districts, tht also means no more hunger games.
ReplyDeleteYou provide strong evidence from the novel, but what evidence can you provide from the video to further support your response?
DeleteWhat comparisons I can make between North Korea and the nation of Panem or the hunger games is that both leaders of both nations support themselves more than their environment or citizens. Also, both nations limit the food which causes a lot of starvation and don’t allow citizens to cross the gate to leave the nation.
ReplyDeleteWhat specific examples from the text and video can you provide to further strengthen your response?
DeleteAfter watching this documentary I realized that both are North Korea And Pamen are very controlling over their people. But in North Korea they have “brain washed” their citizens to worship and praise Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Song, never to doubt them give them praise for everything they are given for example the camera man laid on the ground to take a picture of the statue of Kim Il Song was a sign of great disrespect. In Panem (Hunger Games.)They are rebellious against the capitol for example Katniss she crosses the fence to hunt and trades the animals she hunts and kills. But both are very similar and still unalike. But the North Korean government seems more successful in controlling their people because they don’t have people rebelling against them. But as for Pamen government they have several people rebelling against them.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point Destiney. Why do you think the North Koreans are less likely to rebel than the characters in the novel?
DeleteI believe the people of Koreans are less likely to rebel because they have been taught from birth to praise and worship the leader, no matter who it is. The people of Panem were not taught to worship the government and it is an instinct thing to do.
DeleteThe number of similarities between North Korea and Panem is frightening. They both punish those who speak out, like by being put in Camp Number 22, or being turned into an avox. Both countries have many starving and malnourished citizens, such as the “stunted generation” and the always hungry District 12. Another similarity between the two power hungry countries can be the fence that surrounds the countries, the DMZ in North Korea and the “electric” fence around Panem.
ReplyDeleteNo matter how many similarities there may be between the countries, there are still differences. The North Korean government uses hero worship to control the citizens. Panem uses fear. But they both use some sort of method to control their citizens, methods that work.
Samantha, your observation is very powerful. I especially like your summation.
DeleteI agree, Samantha, but I would also assert that both the North Korean government and Capitol of Panem use fear to control their people in order to keep themselves in power. Think about some of the fear tactics the North Korean government used in order to prevent their citizens from escaping and seeking refuge in China and South Korea. For instance, if a citizen escaped to China, the North Korean government would send his/her remaining family members to a concentration camp for the rest of their lives even if the family had no knowledge of the plans for escape.
DeleteI agree with you that there is certainly more of a "hero-worship" aspect to the North Korean government unlike the Capitol of Panem. President Snow is kind of an enigma in the Hunger Games.
After watching the documentary Inside North Korea, I can make a lot of similarities between the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games.
ReplyDeleteFor example, the Capitol and King Jong were rich, while the people were poor. The Capitol has all of the money it needs and is selfish with it. King Jong had all of the money he needed and wouldn’t share with any of his poor people.
Also, if you rebelled in any way, consequences were took place. In the Capitol, if you rebelled you either had to work for the capitol, or you were killed. In North Korea, you were also killed or put in concentration camp.
Also, the Capitol and the North Korean government both are controlling. The citizens were given very little rights and didn’t their opinion didn’t matter. For example, the citizens in district 12 receive a little amount of food due to its harsh rules.
Shyanne, you make a good point about how both governments do not distribute the wealth among their country men, but instead use it to keep their government leaders and military strong. As you have also noted, Panem and the North Korean government use fear as the ultimate weapon to keep their people oppressed and prevent rebellion, thereby ensuring those in power stay in power. In other words, Kim Jong Il and President Snow were willing to sacrifice their own people for their own self-preservation.
DeleteYou have drawn some good comparisons, Shyanne. Can you think of specific examples from the Hunger Games that demonstrate how the Capitol was able to control the districts of Panem through fear?
Well both governments are very controlled and limited to what they do; for example North Korea has a fence around it just like Panem does in The Hunger Games. I’m pretty sure that both of the countries have very little food supply and barely enough to keep everyone alive. Both countries also have punishment as cruel as death for the smallest of crimes. Going outside the fence is a crime but you will get punished severely if you get caught.
ReplyDeleteThe comparisons you can make between the North Korean government and the capitol of Panem in the Hunger Games is that in North Korea the leader bans the cell phone use to limit the communication between other countries, likewise the capitol doesn’t let anyone outside the district by having the electric fence surrounding the land to limit the communication between the other districts. Also in North Korea the leader punishes the rebellions by killing, or concentration camps. Panem on the other hand would kill, or cut their tongues out, and make them an avox that serves the capitol, if they rebel.
ReplyDeleteYes, yes, yes, Heather! Preventing the people from being able to communicate with one another is one of the primary methods the North Korean government and the Capitol of Panem used to oppress their people and prevent them from rebelling. Without communication, the districts in Panem would not be able organize and assemble with one another to fight against the Capitol.
DeleteAs a result of the war, the population in each district decreased dramatically. In order to fight against the strong, well-populated Capitol, the districts would have to unite and share one another's resources. In other words, the districts need strength in numbers if they want to overthrow the Capitol.
As you know, there are two other books in the series. What do you think is going to happen next? Will the Capitol remain in control? Will the districts ever rebel against the Capitol? Will there be more Hunger Games?
the comparison you can make between the north korean goverment and the capitol of panem in the hunger games is, both of them are very controlling over the people and they only give them a little bit of area to live. they also control their food supply, by limiting how much they eat and what they eat. both dont give a good education to the kids and only teach them a very little bit. they also take away any type of communication like cell phones.they both will punish any type of rebel too!
ReplyDeleteSome similarities between the capitol and the north korean government are that bothof them poorly support their citizens. They both also do not take communication between districts/sides lightly.
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